we're with steve shanesy of popular woodworking magazine. and, steve, congratulations. shanesy: well, thank you, scott. phillips: this is amazing here! it's woodworking in america. and let me ask you -- right to the point -- why is this the best woodworking show going? shanesy: well, scott what really differentiates it from the others is this show is not just about selling tools. it's about getting experience and education, sharing ideas about woodworking. here and in other parts of the building, virtually every exhibitor and a group of 16 different woodworkers are putting on classes throughout the weekend sharing their years and years of knowledge and experience. phillips: you know what? i've always learned -- one good idea a day makes you a great woodworker. and here you can get dozens of great ideas. you better be prepared to take notes. and there's a guy here john sindelar, his tool collection is staggering. i mean, he has tools from the ancient pyramid for goodness' sake. -it goes way back. -shanesy: it's unbelievable. you know he came by just a minute ago and told